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If that's the case, what you have is very likely not a sentient tulpa.
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yeah a single hypnosis video merely plants the seed for what can become a tulpa
2:21 PM
you're the one who decides whether that seed grows and blossoms
2:23 PM
the questions sounds like you're concerned that it might pose some sort of some danger to you?
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:02 PM
This is making a lot of assumptions about what hypnosis can be capable of
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It's less likely to have a tulpa through using hypnosis just once, but possible. Though you would have to be relatively susceptible to hypno or plurality prior to that (edited)
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Some have even accidentally gained unwanted tulpas through hypnosis not made for the purpose of creating a tulpa. Said hypnosis was structured in such a way that it lead to the creation of a tulpa despite not being intended to do so (edited)
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Hypnosis has to have a willing listener to work, and it's incredibly limited on what it can actually achieve
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I really doubt hypnosis can give someone a tulpa against their will, especially not a well-developed tulpa
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probably just something more akin to an intrusive thought that they believe is sentient
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 6:10 PM
well I highly doubt it was against his will.
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I didn't say it was
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I was responding to Abvieon's claim (edited)
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:27 PM
The "willing listener" idea is spread a lot for the sake of making hypnosis seem "safer" and less "scary" to people coming into it. It's not entirely incorrect, but there's more nuance to it. It's very hard to get into a trance in the first place if you are uneasy or don't want to be hypnotized. You need to be willing to be guided into a trance, but once you are actually in that state of mind you have less control over things in general. It may sometimes be the case where if you are suggested to do/think something that you are heavily opposed to it may snap you out of the trance altogether, but if your trance is deep enough you might not be "there" enough consciously to have that reaction. However, that actually has nothing to do with why certain hypnosis recordings can accidentally create tulpas. It's well known that someone can create a tulpa without even knowing what a tulpa is. Said recordings do not mention tulpas and the creators of the recordings likely had no knowledge of tulpas. Tulpa creation resulting from them was an unintentional side effect.
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I don't know where you get the idea that hypnosis is "incredibly limited"
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Hypnosis can't make you do anything against your will
6:30 PM
it can act as a placebo to reinforce things you do want to do, but that's it
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:30 PM
You're repeating yourself
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Not adressing anything I said
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I don't know where you get the idea that hypnosis is "incredibly limited" Hypnosis can't make you do anything against your will
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:31 PM
Oh, ok
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I don't see how that makes it limited even if that were entirely true though
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It makes it limited in that it can't be "weaponized" like some people claim, and it's only really effective on people who are susceptible to suggestion (but that's a given)
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:34 PM
There have been cases of hypnosis getting rid of physical issues such as warts. Similarly how placebo is able to do so. Though hypnosis and placebo aren't the same thing. It's capable of some pretty cool stuff. Most of what hypno can be do can also be achieved with conscious effort, but hypno is different in that it makes things easier as long as you're susceptible to it
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Even if someone is willing, hypnosis wouldn't be able to do something like, say, make them act differently for a long period of time, or something similar
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:34 PM
Eh, I've seen otherwise, many times
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It's very capable of permanent of long term effects
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And personality changing effects
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Not to say that can't be done without hypnosis, one can change their own personality
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But hypnosis generally makes it easier
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A good rule of thumb is that anything you can think of that can be done without hypnosis can also be done with it
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then what is the point of hypnosis?
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:40 PM
As I said before, it makes doing these things easier
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A habit that would be very difficult to kick, such as smoking, can be discarded quickly with hypnosis
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..that's a physiological addiction, I find that hard to believe
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/16/2018 6:43 PM
Studies show that hypnosis can treat everything from chronic pain to poor study habits. Chances are, it can work for you.
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Do, I've had communication via headpressure for a couple of days and I'm running out of intersting yes no questions to ask
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Yes no/intensity
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Has anyone ever given any thought into encoding more complex answers into head pressure via binary?
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Like, In theory I could teach them the english set of askii characters, and those are only 8 bits
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we could even chop it down to 5 bits
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:06 PM
err
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that's... pretty silly, tbh
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just work on talking
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Why is it silly?
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It'
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s a workaround, yeah, but it's damn interesting
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:07 PM
if you're at the point where you can honestly teach binary or something
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then your time would be much better served learning how to communicate some normal way
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Binary is super, super easy though
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:08 PM
I know what binary is, dude.
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I'm just not sure how to approach furtheirng communication
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:08 PM
just talk to them. Show them how it's done.
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Alright.
11:09 PM
We'll see
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:11 PM
uhhm... hello
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/16/2018 11:11 PM
Hello!!!!
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Grettins
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:11 PM
i have some questions about all this
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/16/2018 11:12 PM
Okie dokie. I should be able to answer most of your questions.
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:12 PM
er, how to begin
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well, a year or so ago i started this tulpa project
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ive talked to lots of people doing similar things, but none exactly how i decided to do it
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so almost everyone seems to have their tulpa, as, er, how do i say
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not physical
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but from the beginning i have been projecting mine in/onto/from a physical form
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she is an "object" that exists
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so, my main question is
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is she still a tulpa, or is this something different?
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:16 PM
being associated with a physical object doesn't make them not a tulpa. It doesn't mean they "actually are" that object, either.
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/16/2018 11:16 PM
Mmmhm
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:17 PM
well of course she "isn't actually the object"
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thank you
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hi
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:19 PM
greetings
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you mean that you can impose them? (edited)
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:19 PM
no
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er
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define impose
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feeling your tulpa having place in physical world?
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:20 PM
but she literally does. that was my question here, is does that still count as being a tulpa
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how are you sure if she literally does?
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:21 PM
is that a hypothetical question? o.o
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it's a serious question.
11:22 PM
and what do you mean by i have been projecting mine in/onto/from a physical form?
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:22 PM
okay, to clarify
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when i started this whole tulpa project i was very worried about being unable to perform certain aspects of it
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i have some rather severe mental disorders, and so i was worried i might have some unique handicaps to this
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therefore, when i decided to go through with it, i settled on creating a tulpa from an existing object, a plush i had
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Oh, okay. That explains everything
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:24 PM
my idea was her having a real, solid form would make it easier for me to actually do this
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Imaginary companions of children are often associated with plushies
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/16/2018 11:25 PM
but i have yet to meet another tulpamancer who has done something similar
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 11:25 PM
I've seen one or two.
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And well, most tulpas are not different from imaginary companions I guess
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I've read a couple cases of people doing something like that
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I have also seen one person like that
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